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As a layman, I think the tech of Kemper/Tonex/etc seems to be as good as it's going to get. I personally prefer modelers like UAFX over captures because I like to see what a plexi EQ (or doesn't do) by turning knobs but can't afford a real plexi.
That being said, I'm not surprised that ToneJunkie who's business is selling Kemper captures is talking up how good this "updated" version of the Kemper is.
THANX for sharing Soko. Capturing is literally an audio photograph of an audio sound. By nature it is fixed and totally static. If the source of such an audio photograph is a specific tube amp. It would take over 1.3 million samples before another sample was a perfect match. In short the sound of a real tube amp is fluctuating and changing the sound by the millisecond and a Capture is itself a second or so of info. Dozens of companies have now found a dozen different ways to make a sonic photograph made easier by using a newer better chip or 2 so many markers can give one a unit as good as the other but like all computer devices cheaper every year. An analogy of Modeling would be like making the sound using LEGO bricks but with the bricks all being a different color or shade of that color. So when you hit a cord the bricks are stacked up as it rings out and your next chord is perhaps louder so it gets more bricks and different colors a of them etc. Neither of the technologies are remotely as complex sounding as a audio modified by going through tubes. I find the best compromise is a Tube preamp into a digital amplifier. The new Wampler Pedalhead power amp that uses machine learning to make a Type D digital amp respond like a tube amp is not 100% but it is miles and miles past a modeller with digital from input until it hits the speakers cone.
Thanks for the well thought response Paul. As a bedroom guitarist living in a 2 bedroom apartment in Queens (with two kids and a wife), my problem is more about the sound level so while I know I should accept that I have to use an attenuator on a real tube amp; I'm always hoping to find what's the best option for good tone at low DBs. I could accept say the Friedman Tube PreAmp pedals combined with the New Wampler played through a cab maybe being my best option but I also like my 'cheap' EVH Iconic 15 W in 1/4 mode using a master and drive pedals because I think sometimes the simplest idea might be the right choice.
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As a layman, I think the tech of Kemper/Tonex/etc seems to be as good as it's going to get. I personally prefer modelers like UAFX over captures because I like to see what a plexi EQ (or doesn't do) by turning knobs but can't afford a real plexi.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, I'm not surprised that ToneJunkie who's business is selling Kemper captures is talking up how good this "updated" version of the Kemper is.
THANX for sharing Soko.
ReplyDeleteCapturing is literally an audio photograph of an audio sound. By nature it is fixed and totally static. If the source of such an audio photograph is a specific tube amp. It would take over 1.3 million samples before another sample was a perfect match. In short the sound of a real tube amp is fluctuating and changing the sound by the millisecond and a Capture is itself a second or so of info. Dozens of companies have now found a dozen different ways to make a sonic photograph made easier by using a newer better chip or 2 so many markers can give one a unit as good as the other but like all computer devices cheaper every year.
An analogy of Modeling would be like making the sound using LEGO bricks but with the bricks all being a different color or shade of that color. So when you hit a cord the bricks are stacked up as it rings out and your next chord is perhaps louder so it gets more bricks and different colors a of them etc.
Neither of the technologies are remotely as complex sounding as a audio modified by going through tubes.
I find the best compromise is a Tube preamp into a digital amplifier. The new Wampler Pedalhead power amp that uses machine learning to make a Type D digital amp respond like a tube amp is not 100% but it is miles and miles past a modeller with digital from input until it hits the speakers cone.
Thanks for the well thought response Paul. As a bedroom guitarist living in a 2 bedroom apartment in Queens (with two kids and a wife), my problem is more about the sound level so while I know I should accept that I have to use an attenuator on a real tube amp; I'm always hoping to find what's the best option for good tone at low DBs. I could accept say the Friedman Tube PreAmp pedals combined with the New Wampler played through a cab maybe being my best option but I also like my 'cheap' EVH Iconic 15 W in 1/4 mode using a master and drive pedals because I think sometimes the simplest idea might be the right choice.
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